Talk:Illegal spying
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Over the last few decades an illegal spying organization has emerged in the UK and other developed countries. This organization consists mainly of ordinary citizens and is not as far as I am aware closely connected with the official spies such as MI5 and MI6. The people involved in this organization are spying illegally, that is they are doing so in contravention of several acts of parliament that are supposed to guaranty our human rights and protect our privacy and personal information. They have constructed a huge network of hidden listening devices and spy cameras in order to spy on people anywhere in the country. The people they spy on are not informed of the fact and there are no legitimate reasons why they should be spied on. They are not criminals or terrorists. If anyone questions why this spying is going on the spies simply lie and pretend that it is not happening and no such network exists. I have written this article to bring this to the attention of other people who may not be aware that this is happening and may themselves be spied upon. The rest of this article is in the form of a FAQ because it is the best way to provide answers to the obvious questions that you may have about these spies. The following web site has more details about illegal spying[1]
FAQ
Q: What is the spies network?
A: It is a highly sophisticated completely hidden surveillance network using very sensitive listening devices and CCTV cameras spread throughout the country which is used to spy on people largely without their knowledge. It can also be used to pick up radio emissions from computer monitors in order to see what you are typing or viewing on your screen.
Q: How big is the spies network?
A: Huge, exactly how many surveillance devices they have I do not know but it must be in the millions because virtually every part of the country is covered, including relatively remote rural and mountainous areas. It also extends to other countries in Europe and the USA and possibly other parts of the world.
Q: Where are these surveillance devices?
A: They are extremely well hidden which makes them virtually impossible to find. As far as I can tell they are built into the fabric of buildings or underground making them inaccessible without some serious investigation. As they are mostly on someone else’s property this is not usually possible anyway.
Q: How sensitive are their devices?
A: Their listening devices in particular are ultra sensitive to an extent that you probably would not believe is possible. This means that even if you are hundreds of meters away from any electricity supply and presumably from any of their listening devices they can still hear even the quietest whisper. When you are closer to a listening device, inside a building for example, they can hear things which are completely inaudible to the unaided ear.
Q: Who are these spies?
A: They are a conspiracy of various people spread throughout all sections of society including both national and local government, the police, and many private individuals. They mostly seem to be made up of the better off members of society such as married home owners with children and good jobs. The young, single, unemployed and minorities of any kind appear to be less well represented.
Q: Do they have anything to do with MI5?
A: I am sure that MI5 knows about and has access to their network but it is mostly used by ordinary people and unlike MI5 who are mainly concerned with national security and terrorists, the spies I am talking about are mostly spying on ordinary law abiding citizens. In fact they seem to spend almost no effort on spying on terrorists or criminals.
Q: When was this network created?
A: It probably started some time after the Second World War because before then the technology either wasn’t available or was too expensive for widespread use. Most of the expansion probably took place after cheap transistorised electronics became widely available in the sixties. The CCTV side probably only took off in the eighties.
Q: What do they do with this network?
A: They use their network to spy on people without their consent and to record information about them which can later be used as propaganda against them. The information they record is nearly all of a negative nature designed to damage a persons reputation and is often distorted, manipulated and taken out of context for this purpose.
Q: Do they have any information about me?
A: If you have lived in this country at any time in the last fifty years or so then they have probably spied on you at one time or another and may well have extensive records about you stretching back for that length of time.
Q: Where do they store this information?
A: I do not know but they must have very extensive records probably stored on a mixture of audio tapes, video tapes, CDs, DVDs and computer hard disks.
Q: How do they communicate this information?
A: Originally they probably relied mainly on the telephone network. However now they probably use the Internet, mobile phone networks and possibly other radio networks as well. They will exploit any new technology that comes along if possible.
Q: Why haven’t I heard about this before?
A: If you haven’t heard about any of this before then it is because the spies are all liars. If you ask any of them about it they will deny all knowledge of any such spy network . Even supposedly reliable sources of information such as the BBC, the media generally, the police and anyone to do with the government will categorically deny that the spies network exists. They are all lying.
Q: Why are some people allowed to use this network and not others?
A: Some people are told about the spies network at a fairly early age e.g. when they are still teenagers while others are kept in the dark for decades, maybe even for their entire lives. There does not appear to be much logic to any of it. You might just as well ask why did the Nazis pick on the Jews or why did Catholics and Protestants fight each other in Northern Ireland for so long. The system is based on prejudice and like racism, sexism, religious bigotry or any other prejudice it defies logical explanation. The spies themselves would no doubt claim that the individuals they exclude are in some way at fault but this does not in any way justify the extent of the spies victimisation. In my experience the spies morality is worse than other people’s, they lie more, they think nothing of spying on people without consent, stealing other peoples work, denying people jobs, or harassing people for years on end.
Q: I can hear voices harassing me at a just audible level what is this?
A: The spies network incorporates loudspeakers as well as listening devices. If you can hear voices at a just audible level that follow you around and harass you then it is almost certainly the spies. Quite why they do this I do not know, it probably means they in there usual completely biased way think you have done something wrong. However they never bother to tell you what and it may not even be your fault, or even if it is, it will be something that has been blown out of all proportion. It may be that for whatever reason one of them has just taken a dislike to you. The spies are basically stupid thugs, in situations where a normal person would simply talk to someone and make their feelings known in a way that you can do something about the spies resort to bullying.
Q: Isn’t this all a bit implausible?
A: Not really, history is littered with examples of corrupt regimes that lied to and exploited sections of the population. For example slavery has a very long history and was only abolished in this country two hundred years ago (supposedly). More recently in Nazi Germany sections of the population were systematically exploited and even murdered on a massive scale and even today there are some people who deny that this exploitation ever took place. The idea that ordinary supposedly decent people would not get involved in such a thing is simply wrong.
Q: Who exactly may be spying on me?
A: There is only one network and as mentioned earlier it covers the whole country. This means that someone anywhere in the country could be spying on you at any time of the day or night. In practice however it is most likely that people that you have had some contact with in the past will be spying on you, such as neighbours or former neighbours, employers and people you may think of as friends who you might not suspect of doing such an underhand thing. Most shockingly of all even close relatives including your parents may well be spying on you. This may be hard to believe but unfortunately it is true.
Q: Why should I care?
A: If the spies have not bothered you up till now you may wonder why you should care if people might be spying on you. My answer to that is that the fact that they have not bothered you so far is no guarantee that they won’t in the future, in fact in my experience they deliberately do not bother you too much when you are young because they want to gather as much information about you as possible without you being aware of it. However a time will come when they start using any information they have gathered against you.
Q: But I do not believe I have done anything significantly wrong in my life so what do I have to fear?
A: You may think that you have not done anything significantly wrong but the spies will not see it that way. They have a way of blowing even extremely trivial incidents out of all proportion. It does not matter to them that you may not have done anything illegal because they make up their own rules. For example if you have ever been unemployed this will count against you . If you have ever made any mistakes in your job you can be sure that the spies will know about it and use it as evidence of complete incompetence even if is was not entirely your fault. Don’t expect to get a fair hearing from the spies because you won’t get one, they use any compromising information they have gathered about you behind your back and you will have no chance to give your side of the story.
Q: Are their no restrictions on how the spies network is used?
A: I am not aware of any although it is possible there are some. As far as I know you either have access to it or you don’t and if you have access you can spy on anyone at any time.
Q: Isn’t it insane?
A: Yes I think so. It is as insane as if the Government were to pass a law banning all locks and alarms and to allow any one to walk into anyone else’s property, relying entirely on trust that they would do no harm. Of course this is completely naive and the spies do a great deal of harm in practice, they will steal any information they can get hold of regardless of whether it is confidential or copyrighted and use it in ways that are entirely detrimental to you. That is why I am trying to get rid of their unfair and exploitative network.
Q: Isn’t it illegal?
A: Yes. The spies are breaking many laws. In particular the Human Rights Act, The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, The Data Protection Act, Confidentiality law, Copyright law, The Protection From Harassment Act, The Computer Misuses Act etc. However it is impossible to take them to court (at least on your own) because the authorities are all involved in the spies conspiracy and simply refuse to acknowledge that the spies network even exists. Personally I have complained to the police and other authorities on many occasions and there response is always the same they lie.
Q: Isn’t it undemocratic?
A: Yes, the spies system is completely undemocratic. They are doing many illegal things, they are doing things that nobody has been allowed to vote on, they lie about what they are doing and the people who do have any influence in their corrupt system are completely unaccountable. It would be hard to invent a more undemocratic system.
Q: Wouldn't such a network cost a lot of money?
A: Yes, it must have cost many billions of pounds of your taxes to construct and operate. It is a huge waste of money because it achieves nothing of any value.
Q: Is there nothing I can do about these spies?
A: On your own probably not, I have tried. I have reached the conclusion that the only way you can do anything about them is by joining together with other like minded people and then taking concerted action against them. On your own it is too easy for the spies to simply ignore you or lie to you. They get their strength through numbers while the people they pick on are isolated individuals. The only way to combat thugs like the spies who refuse to communicate or respond to reasoned argument is to form a group that is strong enough that they cannot ignore it.
- ↑ Nelson Trueman The Anti-Spy Site 17/02/2009.
References
Why can I not be a "primary reference"? If I have some information that the Government or other people are trying to suppress then I may be the only reliable source of that information. If you exclude whistleblowers then you will never get any useful information other than that that is officially approved. I was under the impression that this site was about exposing lies and propaganda for what they are. The Government and media have consistently lied about the illegal spying going on in the UK and elsewhere and I am trying to alert the general public about that for their own good. Are ypu saying the information I have given is wrong? If not then why did you remove it?
